It seems like just yesterday that we announced OpenManga to the world, however time has gone by quickly and it is actually over 6 weeks since you first heard about us. Creating a platform like OpenManga might seem like a much easier task than what it actually is. We have seen some comments stating “what is taking them so long”, and we wanted to take the opportunity to explain a little bit about what is going on in the background.
First of all, OpenManga is being officially incorporated in Japan (as suggested by the company seal shown above). Just this process alone takes quite a bit of time due to paper work and legal procedures. We are currently sharing office space with our Japanese partners, BPS Inc, in Kanagawa Tokyo, which is where the OpenManga team was working from when we visited Tokyo last month. The reason for picking Japan is quite simple; it is where the majority of artists and publishers are.
OpenManga is by no means a small project to build, and those of you who are experienced with building a CMS and web platform will know how much work goes into what seems to the end user as the simplest of things. OpenManga is one of those projects whose development scope can be very deceiving at the first glance because we are not just simply building a multi-lingual online reader.
That begs the question: What exactly are we building into OpenManga?
If you are going to go by our coming soon page, OpenManga is an “Online Manga, Digital Publishing and Social Platform”, but what exactly does this mean?
When we think about the terms “digital publishing” and “online manga”, we don’t just think about having an online reader + comments function like the terms might suggest to some people. Manga is usually published in a magazine, bundled together in a package of multiple chapters from many series and combined with some editorial. We felt that it is important that we include the idea of reading a manga magazine, even if it is not necessarily in a physical form. We have also stated that we are building a platform that supports both artists and publishers. This means that we need to have functionality for publishers to be able to release digital versions of whole magazines in addition to letting artists be able to release single chapters. It is not only with other publishers in mind that this magazine functionality will be useful for us though; OpenManga is also being built with the possibility of releasing (multiple) “Official OpenManga Magazine(s)”, where – if agreed with content providers, we can bundle various series together on our own as a package deal. Imagine reading, for example, the “OpenManga Shounen Special”!
Then things start to get a bit more complex: imagine reading a magazine and being able to on a per chapter basis be able to view the magazine in a different language at the snap of a finger, or click of a mouse button.
We have also stated that we are going to provide a model that would allow freelance and fan translators & scanlators to provide localization services of manga series. Some have incorrectly presumed that this means that the OpenManga team will be scanlating and translating manga on our own, however this is not so much the case. The OpenManga framework is being developed to promote collaboration between artists, publishers, and translators/scanlators by using OpenManga as the medium of choice. In simple terms, we are (in addition to providing scanlators a place to distribute their work legally) making it possible for manga creators and licensors to set up contracts with specific scanlation teams in order to produce, for example, the official Spanish version of a particular manga, in addition to allowing scanlators and translators translate series of their own picking because they simply want to spread appreciation for that manga.
The last term on our coming soon page is “social platform”; a term that could be used about almost any website being developed these days that allows user submitted content of some form. In OpenManga’s case though, this term is integral to the website’s design. Before starting work on OpenManga we asked ourselves some key questions. We have listed some of them below:
- How can we give lesser known manga a chance to shine?
- What functionality is essential to reading digital manga?
- How can members share their findings and interests?
- How can publisher, artist, and fan interact with eachother?
- What would an OpenManga visitor want from registration?
- How can we make exploring manga on OpenManga a fun experience?
For many, reading manga is mostly about reading “the big three”, or whichever series it is they have been introduced to and are following. We understand that this is also an important aspect, but we strongly believe that we couldn’t just design a website that simply left manga fans to their own devices in finding and discovering new and cool series outside of their primary interest. As we started looking for answers to this problem, it became evident that it was necessary to design OpenManga in a way that promoted interaction between friends and strangers alike. We needed to make methods for allowing members to suggest manga to others, for members to be able to visit other members’ profiles to see what they are reading, and to find ways where we could really embrace the concept of “sharing is caring”.
We realized that we needed to create a system that both automatically keeps track of what a member is reading for his own logistical purposes as well as for others to use as a base to discover new series that might interest them. Despite the controversy around Facebook, the ideology behind sharing updates, interests, and content among friends is a very intriguing one that fits very well into the idea of what OpenManga is all about.
Fans helping other fans enjoy manga.
Then we started thinking about how we could improve the experience of looking for new manga to read, and how to make it more fun. An idea came to mind: what if we could give our members game style missions that instruct them to go out and explore new manga – either via friends, via automatically generated suggestions and recommendations, or via a browsing tool – and reward them for doing so?
While we are not going to go too much into detail on this point just yet as this blog entry is getting rather lengthy, we’re sure most of you get where we are going with this. OpenManga is not simply going to be just another website where you can read manga. It is not going to be just another pay-for service that charges you money to read the series you enjoy. It is not going to be something that we throw together quickly simply to have something halfway functional out there.
OpenManga is going to be an enjoyable experience to use; it is going to be a community, and it is going to be something that you will want to tell your friends about. It is going to be a platform that truly embraces the technology and possibilities that are available to us in this day and age, and most importantly – it is going to be a platform that rewards both content creators and fans alike in the manner that matters most to each of them.
With all of this said, we have come to the end of this blog post. Before we leave you to rant, rave and discuss our update in the comments below, we wanted to provide you with a very first look into what OpenManga will look like in your browser.
Until next time: stay tuned to our Facebook and Twitter pages for Q&A, regular updates and feedback requests.
This still doesn’t explain how you intend on making this work. How do you expect to make money or at least enough money to keep this going, especially with competition such as Square Enix’s newly announced online manga store and Crunchyroll’s plans on getting into manga distribution.
Addtionally, how do you expect to get the rights for every manga series that’s scanlated? Either you’re underestimating how much manga gets scanned or you have some kind of bizare trick up your sleeve.
Thanks for the update, I am excited to see what comes of this project. I like the screen shot (the design is cool too), however, it would be nice to see what the “reader” would look like with a general manga series actually being “read.”
I’ve previously found the concept behind OpenManga exciting. But now I’m positively GIDDY! <3 <3 <3 <3
While facebook is a good idea to include as a part of sharing experiences, I prefer not to update my status with what I read, so I hope I don’t have to connect facebook to my account. I assume you guys also have to plan how to best handle your marketing since pretty much the biggest online manga reader is now planning to go down.
All fair since nothing is really for free, so I am interested in seeing what series you can include. (Doubt you will be able to have a few % of the catalog onemanga had in the beginning. But it will grow.) I am also looking after the possibility of not just finding new chapters of manga, but entire backcatalogs of older, completed manga.
The price will always be interesting to see. Go from illegal free to a hefty price for an entire serie is quite a jump for many people. The people behind it has no doubt put enough work in it to justify the price, but as a consumer, just buying two, three series (in pocket form) at once is unlikely as the price would go way over my, or anybody else’s budget. Price will be a tipping point. And I am more likely to pay way more money as a whole to all if its cheap, and continue doing so, rather then stop using openmanga after a few expensive volumes and never come back.
I know that this might sound like a stupid question to most of you out there but I just want to make sure. Will the language be in English, too besides Japanese?
When are you going to post a list of manga that you will carry. must of the manga I read is not licensed in the US.
Trang, yes, there’s both an English site as well as a Japanese site.
If you guys succeed in this project, this will be the MAIN site for every manga reader out there. I wish you guys all the luck.
yeah. The problem is the price. From illegal free to a hefty price is quite a jump in us online manga readers.
I really hope this turns out good and so wish you luck. I’m also a little worried about the price, but if I can “read” all the manga I want online then(at least in my case) I’m more likely to actually buy the physical from of the manga since I already know if its good and would want to support the mangaka. And about updating what you’re reading, then maybe associating with Myanimelist or Mangaupdates or create something similar could be more comfortable for some people. If fans can freely scanlate and post their works there legally then it would be a great mental support for us translators.
This is pretty much confirmation that a good deal of the site’s content will be sold. This may be different than what many readers had hoped for, but is also a good sign that what this team is building is meant to last. And before you despair about the price – notice that the volume of manga in the mockup goes for 250 yen (about $2.86). This is a GOOD DEAL compared to what most manga goes for, and though more popular series may be more expensive, I can only think of this as a signal to the readers.
I’m looking forward to more information about your ideas for us translators/scanlators. Will we be free to scan whatever series they please, and will their products still be free? Perhaps the “right-off-the-press” scans could stay up until official, marketplace versions come out. Your “game style missions” idea is also exciting (and possibly addicting). Keep up the good work, and keep your blog/twitter content flowing!
so, that’s how scanlators and translators fit in this project. Hopefully my team can join you soon.
This looks like a great idea. Hope it actually does work for lesser known but still awesome manga, such as Zettai Heiwa Daisakusen.
Is there any chance this might expand to manhwa as well? Including those that seem lesser known, such as Immortal Regis and Cavalier of the Abyss? Because it would be pretty awesome if it did, just saying…
All the best for this project! b^^d
Just heard about the recent manga ruckus today. I very much like the idea of your site, and hope it does well. Price will definitely be a determinant in whether I participate. Personally, I would prefer a monthly subscription price to read, as apposed to individual volume sales. Even if the volume sale price is less, it begins to be a hassle to re buy each time.
You say that you are going to host manga.
But, theres easily tens of thousands of ongoing manga. How do you plan to get through all that, get people to wait AND PAY for those releases, when they could wait 2~3 days to get it from some scanlators?
How much will I have to pay to read the manga?
How much will author get pay from OpenManga?
Here is my concern:
I’m worry about OpenManga exploiting American fans. Take our money! Why? Because Americans can afford it! America is rich! That’s a myth.
At this point, I don’t know if OpenManga will charge a subscription fee or not. Here is my argument against charging a high subscription rate:
I can not pay 300y or 3.00$ to read a chapter a week or a month. I OpenManga to consider a philosophy similar to iTune.
1, look at the existing market
2, charge less according to that market
a, charge less because you are unburden with printer, ink, labor,
shipping, wholeseller and retailer’s cut of the cover price.
b, Manga is a luxary item that people can do without. Charging a high
price will hurt you and this “experiment” will backfire, causing you to
lose face with your publishing partners.
I will accept paying 4.00 to 5.00 a month to read “EVERYTHING”. Is this unreasonable? NO. Shonen Jump…25 to 35 stories. Each story contains 8-24 pages.
Shonen jump, Shonen Weekly, etc….. these anthology cames out weekly. I bought it for under 400y. For UNDER 5.00 a week, I read everything!
I can read EVERYTHING for that 300y. I can read that Weekly anthology as many time as I want to for that 300y.
We, in America, are being raped by the publishers. They want 10.00 for English translated manga. Manga in Japan cost 400y to 500y…? We’re burnt out from being raped by the publishers. Unless OpenManga is paying the bulk of the subscription to the artists, OM doesn’t have a reason to charge a lot.
You don’t have a physical printed version. You don’t have the added cost of moving the book. You don’t have the cost of storing the books. You don’t have the cost wholeseller and retailer taking a cut.
Last suggestion. Summarizing the iTune role in the market:
1, Jobs was able to convince the Record Labels to take a chance on the experiment called iTUNE. If the .99 a song fail, it’s on a 7% of the computer industry….on a Mac.
2, Jobs convinced the Record Labels to accept .97 of the .99 charged for each song. (I don’t think many people out side of Apple/Mac fans know that Record Companies get almost 98% of the price.) Jobs convinced those greedy exec that reducing cost of production of a CD, shipping, inventory, storage, transportation, wholesale/retail cut, that .99 is a good retail price for a song without any of the above expense.
3, Feb 2006 Apple sold over a BILLION songs…BILLION. At .97 profit for the record company, that’s over $970,000,000 in profit (this was a few years ago) without even printing a single copy of a CD to gain that profit. BTW, the record company want to charge MORE for those songs as if a billion dollars in profit isn’t enough…… greed?
4, Feb 2010 Apple sold over 10 BILLION songs. Record companies still want to charge higher price per song.
5, For me to have an iPod/Pad/Phone APP on iTune, I get a really decent cut of the sales price. DEVELOPERS get 70% of iTune App sales. If Developer gives away App, then iTune/Apple does NOT charge anything to the users or developer.
My last question to Open Manga is: How much of a cut are you going to take from the subscription service? How much will the individual independent artist get?
5%? 10%? 15%? 20%? 70% like Apple? Are you planning to have a different deal with big publishers and give them 80%? Are you planning to give independent authors 20% and claim that it COST you a lot of money to store their content on your site? I don’t know what you guys are going to do. Maybe I’m paranoid. Maybe I’m not.
Will the authors receive the bulk of the subscription price?
Summary:
How much will I have to pay to read the manga?
How much will author (us comic book creators) get pay from OpenManga?
Good luck with the company! I hope you guys (assuming it’s a Japanese company, I’ll assume women are treated in the traditional manner: Get me coffee, I don’t care if you have a Masters degree) do great things with this company. I hope you people do great things for manga fans.
Thank you for replying back to my comments in the last blog post.
Something I’d like to suggest that I find will help let more mangas be known on the site is to have a randomized banner of somesort with pictures and links to a manga, similar to Mangatoshokan’s layout (before it almost nearly got shut down;; http://www.mangatoshokan.com/ ).
I look forward to this site being put into full motion soon and hope that through this, the tense feelings between companies and fan scanlators will finally (or somewhat) put at a rest. It will take a while to get mangas on here but at least something is being now that manga companies are putting a foot down and demanding manga reader sites be shut down.
Just my suggestion. I hope it will be read by the OM team.
How can we give lesser known manga a chance to shine?
- It would be really nice have a page for new series… regardless of who is the mangaka, the publisher or if even if it’s a oneshot. When the viewer click on it, it will show a list of new added series in the OM database. A summary and some information about the series would be great. Even if it’s not yet added in the site (i mean online reading)… members can bookmark it or add it to there future list (in the future). Members will be given an update about the series once there are some updates~
What functionality is essential to reading digital manga?
- Most fans wants to have their own copy of the series so they want a download link. Some only like to read it online and some do both. There should be a list of series in OM. Once clicked, it will show information about the series, publishers and mangaka. It will be awesome if publishers can update the release of the next chapter or just inform everyone the status of it (since there are times that a series is on hiatus when the mangaka is sick or something). Publishers can make notes. Same with the mangaka, they can participate. In the series information page, mangaka can give a shout-out (or updates/comments or simply a message) about the series. The shout-out for mangaka should only be accessible by the mangaka and same with the shout-out for the publishers.
So for the online reading, I suggest viewers can only view the summary page (information), when they decided to read the manga, they must first pay (just a one time payment for the whole series ~~ nah! i don’t think this is a good idea XD). Once paid, they can now read the series online. Saving the images should not be allowed. No right clicks and the images should have a BIG watermark so even if viewers try to copy it using “Print Screen”, they can’t use it for scanlation.
Or
online reading is free for everyone. They can choose Japanese or English version (if available). When they want to have their own copy by downloading it, they must pay (for each chapter or volume, up to you guys).
How can members share their findings and interests?
> Forums. Forums are useful at times like this. But I really hate unorganized forums. Forums should be in complete control. No spams. Filter the topics a much as possible. Members tend to make useless topics like simply asking something. Once answered, then the topic is useless anymore. The forum should have topic for each series like in MangaFox forum.
How can publisher, artist, and fan interact with eachother?
> Each Publisher and Artist should have their own information page just like the fans (members of OM). They can post updates/news and shout-outs. Pages is viewable in public but to leave messages and comments, they should register. Set privacy if needed.
What would an OpenManga visitor want from registration?
>A newly registered member can view and make comments from the one I said a while ago. No more, no less. Download is available if they will pay via paypal or whatever payment way you can think of. A simple information page about the member. No need to be fancy. Members page will shown their information, reading/future list, updates about their bookmarked mangakas, publishers and series.
How can we make exploring manga on OpenManga a fun experience?
>I would really love it if at least one of my suggestion will be in the site.
OPENMANGA should be available in both English and Japanese. Same contents and updates.
I hope this helps. ^^ I’m really looking forward to this new site.
In terms of forums (just for possible reference):
Hnn, you can also add a shortcuts and reading list. Or maybe make a “navigation” menu with links that customizable to suit each user. If that’s too much work, than using the shortcuts is a good way. For better organization, you may want to let users seperate each link into “groups/folders.” The same goes with the reading list and possible forum subscriptions. You can try and follow the method of messages that deviantart has. Something I find useful is to have a little bubble in the header with a few updates.
You can also include updates about when someone quotes you/replies back to your thread/replies to a thread you’re subscribed to/other.
For replies back to a thread you’re in, you can have the option of letting the user choose which threads they’d like to be notified of.
I’m throwing out a few ideas here again, feel free to use them or not.
I still think using HTML base for this is going to be a failure. However a feature that you could add (per authorization) is fanfiction. I still think you should develop an app for at least Windows. Using and app the focuses on just the manga and what you are trying to sell keeps distractions away like typing in facebook.com or going to order a pizza. Baring that it would be nice for you to at least use HTML 5 and do not use any flash… or make an app using Adobe Air… that’s a cross platform middleware (works on iphone/ipad, LInux, MAC, Win, and others). I know I’m going to be disappointed just because of the technical limitations of building a website for every browser.
Oh, wow… The first two sites I listed are pretty much going to shut down. =/
I hope that you get this up very soon!
I really do love the lists that both sites had and I wish that they’d at least let them keep the list up. Their method is very efficient. At least let them keep it up, just don’t let them put up the download links. ><;;
Personally, I am very fond of this idea. It strives to keep the original balance between raw providers and indie translators that have made onemanga and other manga providing sites most successful. I have no doubt in my mind that this site will be successful. However I have five concerns. First, there is no impeccable way of stopping pirated mangas. Since openmanga serves as a raw providing medium, how will you control the distribution? Secondly, how large will the database be? I have a incredibly large list of manga I love. I doubt all of them are going to be on openmanga. I mean, will new manga that have not even released its first volume be on openmanga, or will you at least tell us the new releases? (oh, and instead of telling or bragging about what you’re releasing, make sure to tell us what you arent releasing, too) Will there be an adult section? Will there be all of the manga monthlies, or only shounen jump? Thirdly, will manga that has already been licensed by American companies still be on openmanga? (will naruto be there even though some other company licensed it?) This is important because one of the major problems of official manga selling companies is that they are incredibly out of date, slow, and lack variety of manga that is still ongoing in Japan. The fourth thing I want is tokyopop or some other company taking a manga previously on this site, but is two whole volumes behind. Lastly, how will the pricing of the each magazine, volume, and or chapter be? I doubt they would all be the same price. How are we going to pay each chapter? Some chapters have 60 pages while some consist of only 16. Don’t tell me the price will be determined by pages. Lastly, how are you going to monopolize mangas no one cares about or never heard before. Usually facilitation of mangas is done by event or by store sample collection, but with the Internet it’s going to be a tad bit more complex. Who is going to translate the multitudes of new manga released per year? I know large amounts of mangas that scanlator groups have not even touched. Personally I’d like to see manga distribution that is based on the population, such as requesting new manga by polls and such.
Thank you for even creating this site in the first place, though. Manga is a very large source of my entertainment and I am very reluctant to give up. I don’t even care whether or not my question is given a glance at by anybody, but I feel that, in the end, it will work somehow.
Im kinda disapointed with this sample – it is in only japanese, posting it in english blog is kinda not so polite towards readers, layout is similar to asian online readers what are hard to use and looks not so funktional like ppl are using in illegal websites.You must better it a lot.
Does with all this long and messy post you wanted say that:
1. its not like we are used, online library, but just online magazine?
Then im clearly not so interested, i hate online magazines and portals what use this format, it is messy and time consuming, i prefer use mine time for reading.
Publishing sounds very fancy and all but does you are interested what is mine working title? – no, you are interested does i go to your site and pay with money what i earn . Be you publisher, scanlator or…im interested only does you provide what i want and how i want it…usual customer stuff – if we pay we get cocky. And if customer is not satisfied it goes to rival…what is excacly situation now. Publishers til now didnt managed satisfy customers – so scanlation busines started. Do you have clear vision where and why they failed? I didnt read it out from this post.
2. Variety and count of titles is gonna be kinda small, mostly very mainstream stuff with family friendly/ censored content?
Im adult, so im not interested in kids stuff, in general i read shounen and shoujo very rarely.
You constantly avoid talking about adult content, does this means that all titles are for -16 years old? Shounen Jump doesnt sound very adult.
What about Berserk or Gantz or Wolf Guy like series or about series what have sexual content / but not hentai / or are psychologicaly too hard for minors. How you maintain this kind series to be free for read ? Or sort out that kids dont get hands on them in their payd /by adult /accounts?
About count of titles what i personally wait is…some 2 000 – 3 000 titles /eng / in opening and after year 8 000 – 10 000. For official online release its slow start.
3.Prize is gonna be only a litle less than with paper releases?
If so, im not sure you gonna last very long. 0,25 -0,50 $ per chapter is max. And if you count that one volum has 4-8 chapters and series may have more than 30 volums…..very few ppl read only one or two or three titles, for now most of mine online friends have lists with 50 – 500 titles, yes there are listed series what they dropped reading and thous list are many years old but still….if they are forced to read only one or two titles per year….they may not to be interested.
4. Im ok with adds bc they are needed for payment to creators…. but i get annoyied by flashy banners and popups about -”look this is new good manga, pay and read or come play some silly game and waist your time ” – by OM staff / self advertising / then i gonna bite somebody.
5. What i want from OM, what i wait…
Easy to use website where all things are easy to find and logical. Good library where i can see what is updated, what is new. That i can bookmark titles what interest me for infopage reading…if then they seem ok. i mark them into mine reading list and pay per chapter from mine OM deposit after i read this chapter more than 10% / credit and content pages doesnt count only actual story pages /. I prefer read one volum / 4-8 chapters/ in one go or even more, i hate if im forced to read chapter per week. Im person who reads book from cover to cover in one go or drop it and it is not rare thing.I wanna see mine deposit count all time. If i has payd for chapter, it stays in mine reading list like for ever, free for rereading and if i end mine account i have right for small aditional prize download it in medium or low quality in format what suits me / pdf, jpg a.s.o./
6….yes there are many more questions and comments but lets hear first answers.
Shortly:
- format / online magazine or online reading library /
- variety and count of titles / approximate nr., is it 20 or 200 or 2000 and what genres /
- prize / not how we gonna pay but how mutch /
- demografic politics / i dont wanna see next googlegate /
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Its not bc i hate you that i nag..its bc i like you
Hey,
there are some things that are bugging me. The Scanlation group, how are they picked? By the publishers? How could you provide the best translation/scanlation ? I mean, look out there, everywhere the chan, kun, sensei, and shitty scanlations.
And a general suggestion, NO FLASH! I would hate this website if it got flash. It is slow, it uses too much RAM and CPU. And flash in linux is a agony.
Man, this really, REALLY, has to work. Everything is closing: OneManga, MangaHelpers, and the others are already on their way. Manga is a great way of entretainment to me, and altrough I buy it normally, it takes too long to it starts being published. Here in Brasil, One Piece is paused for a long time, while Bakuman, KHR, Soul Eater, Psyren and others just aren’t published. So, this has to works, otherwise I and most Brazilians will have problems.
[...] folks behind OpenManga explain what they are thinking about for their new platform, which is touted as a legal alternative …soon-to-be-defunct [...]
If you would ask me here are some features I think the site can employ to help out:
I think there should be a free plan where a user can follow weekly updates of maybe 4 titles and if he follows more than the limit the site can start to charge.
Another idea is to only have only current chapters on the site…like a subscription does not have to mean access to the whole manga but to a specific chapter or chapters and a user can also have the option to wait for one volume and charge another set of fees for availing mangas per volumes much like tankobons…
Another issue is storage and file hosting, maybe the site can lessen costs by picking out mangas they will host on the site (particularly with a huge demand) and for new mangas maybe the publishers can take care of hosting and part of the money from subscriptions can help cover costs for publishing.
I do hope this would be a success and work out maybe not free but for a reasonable price. You must know that people will becoming from the “free” to a charge so pricing might be the crucial factor.
The only question is how inelastic is the need for manga beyond Japan….
and this also means more Korean manga?
As of Summer 2008, Ive starting reading manga online on manga hosting websites after being fed up with the slow releases for Naruto, Bleach, and etc. That was when I discovered OneManga.com and was able to get up to speed with my favorite series and I also discovered new that I liked. I have two big worries with a website like this.
1) How much will it cost per month?
The current price of a manga volume here in the U.S. is $9.99 plus tax. With a site like this I would expect that the price would be less than $10 and more around the price of a WSJ magazine.
2) How many series will there be?
Thats a real big shoe to be filled. Just how many series would be on here? Would you have the popular Shounen Jump series as well as the lesser known mangas and Korean mangas? The main reason why I like a site like OneManga.com is because the number of series and the variety of genres that were on the site.
I hope to hear something about this in the future and will keep this site on my radar.
[...] folks behind OpenManga explain what they are thinking about for their new platform, which is touted as a legal alternative …soon-to-be-defunct [...]
I have to chuckle at the “using HTML will be a failure” comment … the bootleg manga viewing sites relying on HTML includes one with MILLIONS of viewers and BILLIONS of page views. I’d say that concerns over whether an HTML site will work are the least of the worries for OpenManga.
I would also echo the above … if a “magazine” is $3 for 20-30 chapters of different stories, and a “volume” is $3 for what would be an ordinary printed volume, I’d be fine with that. But I would hope that there would also be ad-supported chapters … after all, with a good Flash reader, it would be possible to stream a 10 second add between each chapter and a 30 second add twice in a magazine, for much better ad revenue than the bootleg sites have available.
The concern is getting enough stories that I’d like in genres I’d like to follow. If there was a monthly Yuri “magazine” and a monthly SF “magazine”, I might even buy both each month. If it was a bunch of shonen and BL, I’d probably pass unless there was a specific volume that I wanted to follow.
BTW @gainard, Flash10.1 is much better and much faster on linux than any previous version of Flash, but I’d agree that subscribers ought to be able to get a straight .png page view, since they would be getting it ad free.
Just wondering, if we were to pay (something that seems fairly likely now), what would we pay by? Chapter, Volume, Series? Week, Month, Year?
If we paid by Series would we have to pay for chapter updates as well, or could we “buyout” the series (which does sound kind of absurd)?
How about series already completed?
Also, assuming that once we paid for something we got unlimited views of it (whether it be volume, series, or chapter), there would be individual accounts right? So, would there be some sort of account protection or something?
Also, in a case like this, couldn’t I just log into a friend’s account (with his permission of course) and read what he had paid for?
A suggestion, as soon as this works I’d love an Open Manga WiiWare app. I used to read my manga on the Internet Channel anyhow. I’d prefer to keep it that way.
I look forward to this. Hopefully the new titles that were put on stop because of shutdown of onemanga can continue here.
* How can we give lesser known manga a chance to shine?
Free 1st volume, yep you heard me, volume. Yeah I know the 1st chapter is usually 60 or so pages but that isn’t enough to hook readers. I usually read 2-3 chapters before I decide if I like it or not. Another method is if, like a shonen jump, you bundle it up with some established manga.
* What functionality is essential to reading digital manga?
Too much white on a screen isn’t comfortable for reading. This is why I favoured OM and I thought I’d point it out now as I remember back when gaiaonline edited a new site layout to reduced whitespace because users complained it hurt their eyes.
* How can members share their findings and interests?
Forums.
* How can publisher, artist, and fan interact with eachother?
I see this as mostly being a one way street. Forums aren’t really constructive to the artist as fans can be very critical. (See OneM Forum) I suggest fans can rate manga and the publishers can read comments to give the artist feedback. Maybe a few competitions can be held where fans win the opportunity for an interview?
* What would an OpenManga visitor want from registration?
Reasonably priced manga and a large selection of titles.
Don’t be greedy now, as other people have pointed out savings are being made through digital distribution and fans aren’t willing to pay the exorbitant prices publishers are asking for. We know what manga cost in Japan *looks at her collection of shonen jump* and if you’re including ad pages I’d expect to pay slighlty less or close to the same.
You also need a wide selection of titles. Some series would never have been available to us without scanlation groups. I’m not sure how its decided what will be released in english but I’ve purchased unworthy manga and crap translations, yet great series brought to us by scanlators are passed over. I don’t know if you’ll have older manga but it would be nice to have old completed series as well as the current and up and coming.
Also the rather touchy issue of adult themes. Yes I know that manga borders on lolicon, that one contains sex, that ones creepily violent etc but I LIKE it and I’m over 18, will you be providing it? Its a hard issue and has caused alot of debate recently so while I’d understand if the answer was no, adult manga makes up half my current reading list.
Question: Are you paying/rewarding scanlation groups? There is no mention of this issue. Many scanlation groups exist just to spread their love of manga but if publishers and artist are making money it would seem unfair not to provide SOME kind of reward to scanlators… They’ve brought us lurkers manga for nothing more than the occassional thank-you so I feel obliged to ask.
I like this idea very much! And I’m willing to pay to read my favorite mangas online because there isn’t a possibility to purchase mangas in my country.
I’m crossing my fingers that it will work like you describe it! And good luck to openmanga team!
/sorry about my english../
It seems interesting. I support this project if it’s really going to be free. I’ll be looking forward to this.
Don’t destroy the fan-base community out of moral and financial means incorporate the 30 sites that are being destroyed by you heartless people If you promise freedom! Promise us fans to hold back your DOGS! STOP DESTROYING OUR SITES INCORPORATE ALL THE SITES! OTHERWISE YOU WILL HAVE NO SUBSCRIBERS AND THE MANGA AND ANIME INDUSTRY WILL DIE! I MEAN WILL DIE WITH HOW YOUR HANDLING THE FREE TRANSLATORS! If as you say your honest and truthful look at mangahelpers.com they were a experienced and dynamic site! But you people thought about to snuff it out so you could say when and who controls the manga flow and who you pick as translators! Some of the Biggest free translator sites your going to crush and destroy with VIZ I will not believe you until you restore all the havock you have caused and include the 30 sites being targeted under your banner otherwise no one is going to subscribe to you!
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ppl without credit cards can’t pay right…then how the heck are we supposed to read manga??huh???
damn soo confuse
@Andrew
You do realize that OpenManga is being made by the same people behind MangaHelpers that you point out as experienced. Are you raging on this post because you think OpenManga is being run by the industry responsible for shutting down your favourite site or something?
Does anyone else see something that’s being overlooked? “Trust”. Why would mangaka trust OpenManga, aka the old MangaHelpers, over traditional, established, reputable, and/or current publishers? Why would the publishers trust OpenManga as a distributor, when they can trust established distributors/developers that actually have the current support of the industry, like Bitway/Crunchyroll?
Even though I prefer purchases in physical form, the benefits of digital are still welcome, like not having the manga get dirty, torn, lost, etc.
In a lot of cases, I prefer reading scanlations because some of the companies that own the licenses to certain manga provide flaky translations, censor, or completely remove things and that just isn’t acceptable. Hence why I don’t buy them.
Also, don’t think this has been brought up, but what would the resolution of manga be? I hope they’d all be the same for consistency sake and good quality.
I’m thinking you’d offer manga by volumes, in which you pay your listed price for permanent reading.
About lending accounts… well, you can lend physical manga, too. This isn’t just possible for OpenManga, but every site with paid subscriptions.
Good luck with making this work, anyway.
Firstly, gotta say that this is all very exciting and I wish you all the best of luck!
One thing has been bothering me though: Will there be region restrictions? [I really hate those things...] Now, I expect your answer will be something in the line of: “that all depends on the publisher/mangaka” (as it should), but so far, with the series you already have/believe you will have, what has been the sentiment? Is this mostly going to be NA only or worldwide?
“We have seen some comments stating “what is taking them so long”, and we wanted to take the opportunity to explain a little bit about what is going on in the background.”
Please, take as much time as you guys need to make this site EPIC!
“The OpenManga framework is being developed to promote collaboration between artists, publishers, and translators/scanlators by using OpenManga as the medium of choice.”
I like this idea, a collaboration between artists, publishers and translators/scanlators sounds awesome! It’s about time we all work together!
Haha, anyways good luck!
@ Andrew
“STOP DESTROYING OUR SITES INCORPORATE ALL THE SITES! OTHERWISE YOU WILL HAVE NO SUBSCRIBERS AND THE MANGA AND ANIME INDUSTRY WILL DIE! I MEAN WILL DIE WITH HOW YOUR HANDLING THE FREE TRANSLATORS!”
That’s how I used to view this, but with what OpenManga (aka old MangaHelpers) is doing right now. I think this may be for the best, since this will actually be legal and with what OpenManga is trying to do, we (the fans) will be able to support the mangakas/artists (which is a great idea)!
OK i think i pretty much have an idea of your vision . and this sounds really interesting… but please describe the dues or payment to the fans as soon as you can.. and yes also inform us about the database..Many manga sites which exhibited mangas illegally had an enormous database. and one more thing would you have the already completed or released mangas as well i think not,.. as you mentioned it would contain the digital releases of original magz..but i WOULD surely like to support the artists as it is their legal right….good luck open manga.
it was very interesting to read blog.openmanga.org
I want to quote your post in my blog. It can?
And you et an account on Twitter?
sorry Poor English.
The comic artist with the popularity concludes a monopoly contract with a publishing company.
OM seems to negotiate with a comic artist, but does negotiate with a publishing company?
I’m usually very much agree with this project, clear as a free and meet your requirements and can be read with great calm, well this must be an alternative page at the international level, as many Fansub alter some translations of the manga and put them at their convenience, in the case of Open Manga I quite like the project, I would like to contact the author to express my gratitude to your project and give all my support for you to move increasingly
All I can say is that this must be the alternative page and must be shown to world level and in many cases the resources of the manga get very expensive for many countries with difficult access, I’m glad to have participated here but I also want express a very important support to the creator of manga Helper for his great work in us to meet many important Sleeves and Fabulous, I feel more calm, but also happy with this alternative project, and everyone can read manga for free on this site as it is very reliable and that will make things here better than before as they meet the rights of the author, as are many of us who support him Openmanga as there are people who access makes it difficult to see the sleeves and then comes as our countries of the South and much Otakus say “Mystery and confusion” to have sometimes been heard
Of course while you are free to read manga all good, anyway thank you and express my full support and gratitude, and expected something much better for the future of manga and creator, also not good that many fansub much of this abuse but this project is very promising, anything that is advertised on page and let us know as facebook I can imagine where we can all keep in touch with our creative, I look forward to many
Great information! I’ve been looking for something like this for a while now. Thanks!
One question. When does it come out?
Wow, this site sounds like a great idea.
If you ever need an English-to-Spanish translator, let me know.
While reading free online manga everything will be great, although it will be another facebook XD, but exclusive manga, I support it 100%
go ahead and fight for Anime fans, this has to be unique to the world and have many friends to share experiences seen through the sleeve
Of course it will be free subscriptions and read the manga online are also free, while meeting the rules, things went very well and do not violate the copyright, remember that this is not going to be a paid site, but a place Free where all fans of Manga in the world and come here to read manga so calm and free, but of course I suppose that for every visit that he made the author can be a fortune in the case of Google, usually So I would be too good for this company and the chat system sounds like Facebook in the second case would be very good, but everybody is happy to be free
Keep going. I want to pay distributors for what they do, and to reward authors. Not fatten up those who didn’t work for it (well, I know it’s work too — but how much of my 8€ per copy went to the author ?).
I’m much interested in the collaborative aspect of the thing. I’ve had, since long, much respect for scanlating and translating groups, and I don’t want to see them die because editors don’t care about what their authors do. It would be great to add some respectable people between those guys and the artists.
Also, does it mean that authors will be able to publish their work directly on the site ? That would be great, both financially (expect you won’t charge as much as editors ?) and artistically, can’t even imagine what one would do with a pen and a PC. Heard that authors aren’t so keen on the idea, sadly.
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Best to all!
What I want to say …. Is it that you can read free manga free both as payment? that is my question
Can you read the manga for free?, Maybe I can contribute something in collaboration with Mangaka But can read free manga? as Onemanga, Mangahelper and Mangafox, do we not going to restrict users sleeves for free subscription?
Remember that if the sleeves are the majority for payment, this can lead to the fans who are mostly of scarce resources to create more Fansub and that would be double problem
The page has to be of two things, both free and pay, that if it would be very good for the community of fans of manga
make some money is very good for manga artists, but there are fans who do not have enough resources to pay for each chapter of the manga that’s bad, but for the fans who have paid account, the resources will come faster than free, while free they have to wait until the manga to read, either in a span of 2 or 3 days
It would be good for creating those two things since many do not count by far resource, but the sleeve can be hoped during 2 or three days to that they leave free to see them in line
from what I understand in the income model, there are also free subscription and payment and that’s good news, because a group of Fans of Naruto and Bleach that reason I ask you to start making free subscriptions and wait to read free manga there is little of the fans who are willing to pay the subscription, but I’ll open if I have to wait a week to read free manga
Can you read manga for free? and “payment?
If that part is free support, as many know about it, usually my cousin and is preparing its sucripción payment because it has enough resources, I will do my free subscription if I have to wait for the sleeves in a free publication to read
Top Openmanga, you can do so, many fans are waiting for this site, I hope it is better than Manga helper, but I miss him so much
That platform sounds good…in theory.
A few notes. First…flash-based doesn’t work. Your DRM better be unimposing on the user or few will bite. I’m a bit iffy on the “OM currency” thing, except for that I realize a global economy means nobody’s on the same page. Absent that, a native currency would just be deviantly obfuscating how much something actually costs. That’s a no-no.
In addition, none of this will work unless:
1. Everybody plays. Or at-least Jump does. Absent Jump…chances of this catching on are slim to nil. We’ll all be back to piracy and that’s the ball-game. And Jump needs to play for real. If they decide to heavily restrict their content, again…piracy is all the easier. For someone to think a subscription is worth it, they need a vast catalogue to choose from. Crunchyroll has been vying for anime subscription money for a couple of years now, and only NOW is their catalog finally getting big enough for a subscription to possibly make sense.
2. The prices are reasonable. I know much of this is in the publishers hands, but you all need to make it clear that the portion of this audience they are hoping to get money from is extremely price sensitive, mainly due to their age. Make it clear who they’re dealing, not only what they CAN do, but what they SHOULD do.
3. This goes without saying, but people are used to reading stuff when it comes out now in their own language (or sometimes a week delayed). If you can’t offer feature parody with that (and it sounds like you can reading above), then again…this dies until that happens.
I really like the platform conceptually. I sincerely hope both that the execution is flawless (as it will need to be…people won’t bite unless this is 10x better than a scanlation site…just the law of opportunity costs), and that your executive negotiation abilities are good enough to convince the big-wigs at the publishing houses. Some of these guys still don’t understand how close they are to loosing their global audience (not to mention their chance at monetizing that audience) forever. Good luck.
it’s a great idea make this space for the authors of their respective mangas.
But some people don´t have the sufficient money to pay for this services
well i hope this job works and i wish you the best of luck.
I send greetings<3
If it takes so long to build this up, could you ask the publishers, why the hell they had to close almost every other site now? instead of waiting a little longer. great timing! oh, and don’t misunderstand i’m not blaming you in any way. it’s all theirs. >.>
oh well, until its finished i’ll have to get it from elsewhere. and now rant at me being a criminal. i don’t care, because if they don’t provide it officially i’m gonna get it unofficially. period.
still, looking forward to the opening of your site. my annoyance doesn’t mean i’m not open to paying for a service. it was long overdue anyway. at least, if the prices stay reasonable.
I wouldn’t mind paying a monthly/annual flat fee even though I prefer a free service. As long as the ads aren’t popups or have audio. Then the money could go back to publishers proportionally to the amount of views their chapters have. The magazine would have to be done differently of course.
I have a few questions as both an editor/translator of a scanlation group and a fan:
- How exactly will scanlators be able to talk to mangaka? My scanlation group does Nabari no Ou and I occasionally have short conversations with the mangaka via her Twitter, but my spoken Japanese itself is on a level between beginner and intermediate (working on scans is one of my many ways of practicing and learning to get better).
- I heard on ANN shortly after this was announced that another manga publisher is planning on launching a similar service as a means to pay scanlators and give access to their manga. Is affiliation/merging possible between you two or will you both just be competitors in this initiative?
- If you are going to pay scanlators for what we do, how are you going to go about it and how much would we be getting? Scanlation teams as a whole are typically comprised of anywhere between 3 and 10 individuals, which would mean each individual of every scan team would need to be paid if you are going to do that. However, as scanlators we would prefer the majority of money gained go to the mangaka and the respective publishers, but if we are paid, what percent would be our share and what percent would go to the mangaka and the publishers?
- And as many have stated before, WHO exactly are your partners? I would like to know, as a scanlator. Because I am honestly on board both this and the other idea similar to this. However, if one of them sinks I’m obviously going to the other one. The other official manga reader is fine in this case because it is coming from an actual manga publisher, therefore I have an idea of who’s there with that and what series. But you guys have yet to offer a list of any sort which makes me concerned.
Remember that people do not have much recourse, to pay each chapter to read, it is preferable to sell manga, music, products and varieties of credit card and can be read online manga free, but can not be downloaded and in turn copied, that would be great
I prefer to see that party free manga, because when a service is said to be free means that you can read free manga, no problem
bad to be a free service and in turn have to pay to read every manga, that’s really not the business would
Many prefer to watch free manga, since this has been a practice since many years and I agree with Mary, if you want your own manga, music, and products and save to your PC, you can purchase through Open manga, but I I want the Free Online Manga service at no cost, because you would not call that free
It’s free to read Manga?
si es gratis leer los mangas entonces, lo acepto con gusto
It’s free to read Manga?
If it’s free to read the manga then accept it gladly
I guess it’s free, and that reading manga is very important to many fans of Anime
I’ve always felt a little guilty whenever I’ve read a series online. I’m really big on supporting the mangaka, but when I pay $10 for something I finish in an hour or less, it’s hard to experience all the series that I want to. However if it’s cheaper to read it on Open Manga, I’d gladly pay so the mangaka get what they deserve can bring us new series. I’m VERY curious about the missions. I get the feeling that once it starts, I’ll never stop! :3
How do we get lesser known manga a chance to shine? Simple. :3 Make a “Manga of the Day”. Every day, spotlight a lesser known manga. If every day is two much, then every week. It should be in a prominent place so that more people will see it and click on it. If we’re paying by the chapter, that mangaka gets a hefty bonus for the day!
You could even keep a page with the list of the “Manga of the Day” in case people miss one. They can go back and see what they missed and read it then. That way it continues to stay in a semi-prominent place.
Another idea is something you may have thought of already. Myanimelist give suggestions on it’s homepage. “If you like Duck Prince, you may like Miunohri to Swan”. It’s a licensed manga that recommends an unlicensed manga.
Just a couple ideas!
I am looking forward to OpenManga, but may I ask the following question?
Will it be available to use in the United Kingdom and/or other countries? The reason I am asking this is because I live in the United Kingdom and it is near impossible to acess any legal streams/online manga of interest from many large companies whom are offering it in the USA for free. Whilst Cruncyroll do have some, that’s true, it feels as if I have not found anything there which was interesting that wasn’t blocked to me.
Yes! This is such a good move, and i cannot wait for you to launch the site. When the online sites were being shut down, i kept wondering why nobody was thinking of doing the same thing Crunchyroll does with anime.
Like many have already mentioned, i have no problem whatsoever to help the mangaka for their hard work. So am wondering what the membership fee will be? I would assume this will be implemented in order to help those that work on your site/translators etc. continue their work?
The free model is the better, clear thing while it could read only chapters on line, it would be it nice, for those who could collaborate with the artist, it also be be good and they are those who possess resources sufficiently
I sorely hope what I’ll say is obvious, but, as I think this is the way of the future:
1. You MUST think of every decision from the viewpoint of the RandomJoe user — the ones that don’t care about your profitability, or even legality. While *I* want you to succeed, keep in mind that any decision that would cause RandomJoe to go elsewhere is a bad one. No, I don’t see any bad decisions in your business plan… yet… just pointing out what is hopefully obvious.
2. Free reading must be maintained, and for the majority of your titles. Otherwise, most users will just go elsewhere, and your site will languish in obscurity. You need to either be THE site for online manga, or accept a slow descent into failure.
3. Watch your competition. Not just your business competition, but whatever other sites RandomJoe might go to for manga. See any cool ideas? Adopt them. See any paradigm shifts being adopted by the reader community? Embrace them. This is the major mistake going on today; the publishers are trying legal action to prevent natural competition. While that may win battles and buy time, it will lose the war. Instead, see why users are going elsewhere, and figure out how to make it work for you.
I think you’re on the right track, and I’m glad to see this taking off. I hope you stay on the right track. I’ll offer my help, but you probably don’t need me — you need Japanese natives for legal reasons, and bilinguals for… pretty much every reason. I can’t do either. I can chew up a business plan, though!
Well… It seems like there’s something at the other side of the token… o.o
Anyways, I(we) support this reading site if everything is free (ads won’t be a problem though) but if everything goes into paying, no thanks. We will continue scanlate. With or without you guys. It’ll be nice if we could work with you though.
Everything a scanlator does doesn’t make any reader pay any amount.
We try to keep our hands off to licensed series and promote the unknown ones. Can’t publishers see that…? I hope you wont make any subscription fees. Ads would be enough.
If you read a manga is free, I support the maximum
The system to read Manga on line must be free, this it is the only option, since everything moves environment itself to what it is exclusively Manga
It is supposed that Manga on line it must be free, since as all they wait, this must be the option
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@Scnalator. You, sir, need to read more about what this page is about and why has the situation come to this, but I will point out some things from your post.
“Anyways, I(we) support this reading site if everything is free (ads won’t be a problem though) but if everything goes into paying, no thanks. We will continue scanlate”
Of course it will require payment, you will be paying to legally read a manga you couldn’t have otherwise. Why would you think this should be free? Do artists get their food for free if somehow their manga is famous enough? This is their livelihood you will be destroying and sooner or later there will be no more manga for us to read
“Everything a scanlator does doesn’t make any reader pay any amount.
We try to keep our hands off to licensed series and promote the unknown ones. Can’t publishers see that…?”
Of course, but when an western publisher licenses a certain manga it usually comes out years too late, by then a considerable percentage of the potential market already read it online a long time ago and don’t buy the licensed version. However, only buying the licensed version is what ensures that the original author of the series gets his/her rightful payment for the work.
As you can see, most of the time the problem is not payment, but distribution. I would be glad to pay for each and every chapter of manga I read if only I had a way to. I certainly do not want to wait years for a licensed version and there’s no way I am going to import a Japanese volume that will cost me 5 to 10 times its original cost.
The model in openmanga is: Japanese publishers can sell volumes/mangas/chapters online, people pay to read those [as you can do it from anywhere in the world]. If someone wants to translate a chapter/volume into english, that person will be able to do it either for free or for a small fee according to the author’s wishes. The translator puts the translated chapter/volume on openmanga, opening the market for the english speaking community.
That community can read the chapter/volume by buying it, just as if they were buying it in Japan, but available in a language they can handle. This money goes directly to the artist through openmanga. In this way openmanga eliminates the years of delay in western official releases and at the same time fans of a series make sure that they actually support their favorite artists.
Great article, thanks for sharing and I’ve boomarked this page.
I have money, i want One Piece!!!!!!! openmanga go!!!
from argentina
So let me guess this right, you or openmanga will be charging readers each time they read there manga or will openmanga charge readers in these 3 ways
1:Charging readers after each chapters?
2:Charging readers While reading the mangas on openmanga
3:Charge people after they are done with there series?
So could you explain a bit more on how the readers will be charged?
openmanga will require a credit card right?
Just so you know the world is still going through a global recession
and it isn’t over yet, i have doubts on this openmanga stuff because of the tough times.
You’ll prolly pay a subscription fee, to enjoy unlimited access to licensed series, or be able to read unlicensed series for free.
The profits from the subscriptions will go towards paying the artists who have licensed material so it can no longer be ’stolen’ for free on the internet.
This is a fine solution they have come up with, and is a very good idea. Recession my ass, people will always spend money in ways they can afford. And if you read enough manga, as I do, you’ll be happy to support the artists for a nominal fee.
I have absolutely no problem paying the subscription fee to view manga legally. The mangaka deserves to be paid for their hard work. What I have a problem with is the fact that, even if licensed in English, I can’t purchase in our area. I’ve ordered offline before only to have the issues be on backorder for months OR pay twice the cover charge because of shipping.
Another reason that I would love to be able to read the series online is that it doesn’t take up precious space on my bookshelves. Guess you can say I like to save “green” and “go green” at the same time.
What will happen to the scanlation sites? Will this force them out of operation? They are fan-driven and could really provide a solid foundation to start off this project. Are you going to use their hard work, then stab them in the back when you’re done with them? Turn them in for their free work which really isn’t free because they pay for their own site and manga to translate?
I don’t have enough info to feel ecstatic about everything, but the concept is good. I just hope that we see a beta soon.
I strictly recommend not to wait until you get enough amount of money to order goods! You should just get the loans or student loan and feel yourself comfortable
It seems openmanga name, synonymous with onemanga with different letter “p”, seem to want to gain popularity by wearing a big name from onemanga. Because we know that, readers onemanga including the most widely in this regard. And that is in question. Why was the site of many years standing you do not do anything like that happening today? Would you like to see the popularity onemanga first. If the popularity they are not famous then you’ll ignore them? If the popular and profitable then you immediately do complain. Or you’ll say “we are conducting a survey”, etc. .. (more bullshit). And how do we know you are paying the people who create these works. Now the era in which fraud has been a lot happening. Where is the technology era of fraud via the internet too much happening. If that is you pay a person who makes the comic so far .. ok no problem … There is evidence that it was the original? or just people you hire to pose as that person? Once all have to pay if the problem requires an evidence … you pay the author .. then prove it if you pay them.